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HI-802 QUAD CORE i.MX6, UG802, MK808, UHOST - $50-$80. Android 4.0 / 4.1 - 1080p hdmi PCs on a stick!

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I'm going to buy either a MK808 or UG802 in the next week.

Does anyone have any ideas about what wireless keyboards/mice work with these?

Wouldn't mind grabbing a little Logitech combo that supposedly needs WXP, W7 etc. Would most keyboard/ mouse combos generally work with Android?

slightly o/t, but i was wondering before if it's possible to use one android device as a trackpad/keyboard over wi-fi, to control another android device. I haven't found anything just yet, but will report if i do :)

 

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Looks like thse might help

Tablet Remote: https://play.google....letremote&hl=en

An 2 An Keyboard paid: https://play.google....re=related_apps An 2 An Keyboard demo: https://play.google....re=related_apps

Droidmote paid server: https://play.google....=also_installed Droidmote free client: https://play.google....=also_installed

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Found this outside my front door just before...now for that porn...

 

Keen as hell on these but looking to hear your opinion about it, post up when you have a chance.

 

Buoy, you write so damn well that everything seems so goddamn exciting and awesome that I need to take it with a grain of salt :P.

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pman has the same one I've got. Now my repertoire of android usb sticks are as follows:

 

1x mk802 (original but "supposedly" upgraded to mk802-ii standards *cough-bs*)

1x mk802-ii (a friends who kindly dropped it off. he bought it for his parents but his parents couldn't give 2 shits and he couldn't give a f**k, so it's at my place with small keyboard and touch pad. woohoo!)

1x uhost (got it a few days ago. killing it!!! good speed and beautiful presentation for such a cheap device). it is my favourite... until perhaps the dual-core ug802 comes along in a few weeks.

 

the keyboard I purchased which should be arriving soon is this guy:

Revue_KB_TOP_72_dpi.jpg

 

it's a Logitech K700 but it's the same keyboard that comes with Google TV but it's called (as a package) the Logitech Revue.

 

I may use my sunday afternoon to create a video and up it to ye olde youtube for comparisons sake. i'll repackage my uhost, mk802-ii and mk802 and put em side by side.... maybe.

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DOOOOO EEEEEEEEEEEETTTT!

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So I've been dicking around with it for the last half hour and am very amazed at what it can do. I wont really say much about it for the moment other then poor/no WiFi connection as was reported by Buoy previously. So in saying that, no, my Uhost has not lost its virginity yet...

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if that keyboard works fine, then i'll get jumping on this.

what are peoples thoughts on the mk808? or uhost the recommended?

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This may seem like a dumb question, but can these run movies off a powered external drive? I am going to be spending 3 weeks in hospital in the near future, and am trying to work out the best way of watching things. Thanks

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This may seem like a dumb question, but can these run movies off a powered external drive? I am going to be spending 3 weeks in hospital in the near future, and am trying to work out the best way of watching things. Thanks

mk802 (original) no. Tried it and no you can't.

uhost - I've seen it done and I'll give it a go tonight.

ug802 I've seen it done and I'll give it a go but I don't have that one yet.

mk802-ii apparently you can and I'll try it.

 

EDIT: I found a vid on youtube of the original mk802 running an external HDD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esPEUH7XM-8

 

all I can think of is... it "depends". If the hard disk is low power - eg 5400rpm, not 7200rpm - 2.5" or even 1.8" and not 3.5" - if you can get an external power supply to "help" with the power requirements of the drive.......... perhaps. Because all I know is, I plugged in my 500gb 7200rpm 2.5" SATA external HDD into my mk802 and it did not work. It had some very strange behaviour. It would constantly start the drive... making triple clicking noises. Kinda like the same noise you'd hear when pressing down on a DSLR camera and having it take 10 or 15 photos in succession. I thought it was a noise from outside - but then I realised after a few minutes it was coming from the HDD O_o ... hope I didn't break it. It works, still... may have worn the read/write head assembly a fair bit *shrugs*.

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Woohoo! got my UHost this afternoon and it's running great :D Have formatted a hdd as ntfs and mounted it using an app from the market. None of the remote control apps that i listed before "are compatible with this device" though, so you'll either need a loooooong cable or a wireless setup. My keyboard is a USB hub, so i've got the keyboard plugged into the USB port on the bottom, then the mouse and hdd plugged into the keyboard.

 

S15_Steph: I'm running something very similar to what you're trying to do, except I'm running the hdd through one of these: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Vantec-NST-D100SU-2-5-3-5-SATA-USB-2-0-eSATA-Hard-Drive-Dock-White-Colour-/310433780090?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item48474b917a#ht_2780wt_1202 (the USB interface should be the same thing) so far I'm not having much luck with video playing from the HDD, but I think that might be due to the format of the file that I'm trying to play, rather than anything else. I've got some client work to do tonight, but I'll have a bit more of a look tomorrow night. Hopefully Bouy will have a better answer for you.

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guess the same would apply to usb thumb drives? thinking bout getting one for when my folks go down to the holiday shack

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should be exactly the same thing :)

 

in terms of bitrate over usb2, transferring enough data to support 1080p isn't a problem. normally it comes down to the decoders which actually output the video and audio and if they can keep up.

 

edit:

a few cheap sources:

http://superuser.com...p-video-or-stan

http://forums.whirlp...archive/1471803

 

if that keyboard works fine, then i'll get jumping on this.

I don't think you're going to have many problems with keyboards no working with Android devices. The keyboard I've got plugged into mine is my old gaming keyboard (http://en.wikipedia....itech_G15v2.png) and even the volume keys work on the keytboard. As long at the keyboard adheres to whatever standard normal keyboards adhere to, it should be fine :)

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I'm still experiencing problems playing video from my NTFS hard drive. Tomorrow night I'm going to format it as EXT or FAT32 and see if it's the file system that's the problem.

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Currently still snowed under with work deadlines. Boxes still just sitting there... so all I can do is take a pic of the boxes... which I did.

stick-pcs.jpg

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I'm not sure if this may help but have you tried downloading MX Player from the Play Store? I use this on my SGS2 and plays .avi and .mkv files well.

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Decided to bite the bullet and got a ug802 coming my way. will be interesting to have a play. Particularly interested if Plex will stream from my home server to it on a different network ok..

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I'm not sure if this may help but have you tried downloading MX Player from the Play Store? I use this on my SGS2 and plays .avi and .mkv files well.

Yes this worked for me on my UHost. Didn't want to play some files when I got it and MX Player did the trick. Now it plays it all regardless of which player I choose.

 

Essential apps are: Latest YouTube App from the playstore, ES File Explorer, MX Player, GMail and if you want to download videos off youtube, JetVD ( jetvd dot com)

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is it possibly codec issues that could be stopping you from playing files?

I'm not 100% sure. I've played the same file across the network fine through the uHost, using both the stock video player and the one that comes with ES File Explorer, then copied that file to the NTFS drive and it wouldn't play with either, then copying that from the NTFS drive to the Uhost itself and i still can't play the file. It might be something dodgy going on with the format, or the NTFS reading itself maybe. I've been reading that Android doesn't support NTFS natively, so I'll try it again in FAT32 or EXT4. There's nothing on that drive anyway except that video and a text document :P

 

I'm not sure if this may help but have you tried downloading MX Player from the Play Store? I use this on my SGS2 and plays .avi and .mkv files well.

Cheers mate. I'll grab a few more players before I format the drive again :)

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jetvd is awesome :D

have you seen solid explorer? it's like a windows explorer and can do split screens with different locations

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I've been reading that Android doesn't support NTFS natively, so I'll try it again in FAT32 or EXT4.

 

This might be your issue. Normally the kernel needs to be modified for NTFS support. I've seen it for phones but it has been a hit and miss.

 

Has there been any modified ROMs and kernels for these devices yet? They're quite popular and should be seeing a fan base for them.

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jetvd is awesome biggrin.png

have you seen solid explorer? it's like a windows explorer and can do split screens with different locations

brings back some nostalgia from back in the day. During the DOS years, you were either an XTree Gold or Norton Commander kinda guy. nc.exe ftw!

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bought a powered USB hub and ran a movie off a flash drive. played fine. didn't get a chance to debug the ntfs side of things though...

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has anyone tried the xbmc nightly builds on one? i'm still waiting on mine in the post, so i can't yet. hopefully it'll run ok and save me having to build a htpc

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I just received my ug802... and I plugged it in today and I have to say it is BY FAR the fastest android stick I own - and it's literally 15 bucks more expensive. After using it for even less than 5 minutes it was clear to me that this thing is the way to go. It is speedy enough to use things like web browsing fairly busy sites (I'm talking about gong to smh dot com or theverge dot com and getting a fairly quick load time... perhaps in the 10-15 second range from the first go). Of course a half decent PC will load these pages in 1-2 seconds flat but we have to remember an x86 sucking down 90 watts is 10-20 times faster (and literally takes 10-20 times as much power) than the android pc - so fair is fair - it's decent for what it is.

 

Unfortunately software-wise there were a few niggles - as in, it wasn't as well set up as the uhost. Uhost has a built-in microphone, which meant that skype and voice search would work - and it does! From the back of the tv no doubt! It's sensitive enough that you can blurt out something with a strong voice and it'll work. But it's not a deal breaker - as a usb mic and webcam would be what you'd use if you were seriously going to use these things anyway and not just showing off to the realtives (which is what i did... i called overseas and they were talking to the tv - was hilarious!).

 

The launcher on the ug802, although comprehensive, was quite "flat". There is also no "shutdown" widget unlike the uhost and mk802-ii ... but in any case, everything was snappier - everything! Youtube, downloading, gmail, watching youtube movies, installing apps, snap snap snap.

 

The websites are quick enough that I'd perhaps use them for some casual browsing. The uhost and mk802-ii were a lot slower... and I'd never really use them for browsing -was just way too slow - but the ug802 was quick enough to be bearable - at least for my own tastes thus far.

 

All in all, I'd recommend you get an android stick with the rockwell RK3066 chip (more info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockchip ).

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Are you using the standard web browser to surf the web? Could downloading a browser from the Play Store make loading web pages quicker? How did you find the wireless link compared to the others? My main concern is the wireless quality considering it will have to sit behind the TV and get a signal from the other side of the house.

 

EDIT: I just read my post and sounds demanding. It wasn't meant to come across that way. I'm curious as it really looks like a great media center and general browsing on a big TV.

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Yes the standard web browser. Chrome i dont think is available for this unit yet - but I have tried dolphin browser and it's fairly close to the same speed.

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got the ug802 yesterday, plugged it all up, turned on the tv and BAM, it was all there working fine. even got reasonable wifi :D

only thing I don't like is the launcher, looks awful! tried nova, seemed to work well, but needs some tweaking to make it appear better on a huge screen. also tried playing a movie thru the supplied played, and it was tiny (not sure why, couldn't find any settings to change) so I installed MX player and all seems well.

now just to get a reboot/shutdown widget,try and get nova to be the primary launcher and an app to hide the status bar when playing movies. also going to try plex and xbmc, see what they're like.

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