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I heard someone talking about this, they didn't go into reasons why it was different from regular training but they stressed the point that it was a different thing. I was wondering what that means, apart from the obvious.

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All weight training can be considered strength training. Obviously though the goal is to acquire strength as opposed to solely focus on hypertrophy.

 

However both forms of training will end up if done properly with a little of each.

 

Compare strongman powerlifting weightllifting to bodybuikdkng.

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Yeah that's a distinction I didn't make. The guys in strongmen competition can be burly rather than defined like bodybuilders. I guess they wouldn't work on muscles for aesthetics but I thought maybe there might be different approach to the way they train muscles.

 

That reminds me... I've often wondered what the difference between a built but weak person, and a strong but lean person is. Pain threshold? Lactic acid? Willpower? mindset?

 

You know what I mean? Scrawny Kent's that can lift lots vs tanks that turn out to be pussies.. You see removalists and couriers and sparkles etc etc that are really damn fit and strong but they just look average. It's slightly confusing.

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Different muscle fibres trained.. whether it's muscle fibres that grow or the ability to store glycogen.

 

Inter and intrA muscular connections. The ability of the mind to activate maximum amount if fibres.

 

And generally it's just body fat perception and an illusion. Look up 80kg bodybuilders on stage in photolook impressive but in real life not so much.

 

Bodybuilding is getting big but also an illusion of proportions.

 

Power and strength are just that.

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Powerlifters 80-90% of time lift under 3 reps. And usually just 4 exercises too, the big four with exceptions to variety.

BB lift usually 8-12. This is because it represents best musuclar growth.

Yeh and refer to drifts comments above about str and muscle fibres. On top of that, powerlifters hAve higher percentage white twitch than BB's. And white-twitch are bigger/stronger for power over red.

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Size doesn't equal strength and strength doesn't equal size.

 

I don't buy into the whole 8-12 for growth and 1-4 for strength. I know massive people who lift 80+% of their time in the 1-4 rep range yet have huge muscles, heck take a look at the olympic lifters and their muscle size.

 

I've also seen people at 60-70kg do nothing but 20 rep breathing squats and have 1rm's well over 140-150.

 

my 2c.

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Obviously once you get to a certain strength level you need to start to specialise, but under a 120-140 bench, 160-180 squat and 220-240 dead you shouldn't need to do any specialised or overly low rep training.

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Obviously once you get to a certain strength level you need to start to specialise, but under a 120-140 bench, 160-180 squat and 220-240 dead you shouldn't need to do any specialised or overly low rep training.

 

Unless your a girl!

 

:P

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Obviously once you get to a certain strength level you need to start to specialise, but under a 120-140 bench, 160-180 squat and 220-240 dead you shouldn't need to do any specialised or overly low rep training.

 

Unless your a girl!

 

:P

 

So you do lots of low rep training then :lol:

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Obviously once you get to a certain strength level you need to start to specialise, but under a 120-140 bench, 160-180 squat and 220-240 dead you shouldn't need to do any specialised or overly low rep training.

 

Unless your a girl!

 

:P

 

So you do lots of low rep training then :lol:

 

Actually most my work is like 5x15 atm :P

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Obviously once you get to a certain strength level you need to start to specialise, but under a 120-140 bench, 160-180 squat and 220-240 dead you shouldn't need to do any specialised or overly low rep training.

 

Unless your a girl!

 

:P

 

So you do lots of low rep training then :lol:

 

Actually most my work is like 5x15 atm :P

 

Why oh why would you put yourself through that lol. Did 20 rep breathing squats on Friday and i am still burning haha.

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Obviously once you get to a certain strength level you need to start to specialise, but under a 120-140 bench, 160-180 squat and 220-240 dead you shouldn't need to do any specialised or overly low rep training.

 

Unless your a girl!

 

:P

 

So you do lots of low rep training then :lol:

 

Actually most my work is like 5x15 atm :P

 

Why oh why would you put yourself through that lol. Did 20 rep breathing squats on Friday and i am still burning haha.

 

For accessory work. Need to keep all energy systems and muscle types fairly well trained. Hypertrophy stage atm. But getting good strength gains from different training.

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Obviously once you get to a certain strength level you need to start to specialise, but under a 120-140 bench, 160-180 squat and 220-240 dead you shouldn't need to do any specialised or overly low rep training.

 

Unless your a girl!

 

:P

 

So you do lots of low rep training then :lol:

 

Actually most my work is like 5x15 atm :P

 

Why oh why would you put yourself through that lol. Did 20 rep breathing squats on Friday and i am still burning haha.

 

For accessory work. Need to keep all energy systems and muscle types fairly well trained. Hypertrophy stage atm. But getting good strength gains from different training.

 

The best gains i had and saw in regards to deadlifts were whilst doing 50+ rep sets of ukranian deadlifts.

 

Some times you just gotta change it up.

Edited by Dr. Cranium

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Yeah that's a distinction I didn't make. The guys in strongmen competition can be burly rather than defined like bodybuilders. I guess they wouldn't work on muscles for aesthetics but I thought maybe there might be different approach to the way they train muscles.

 

That reminds me... I've often wondered what the difference between a built but weak person, and a strong but lean person is. Pain threshold? Lactic acid? Willpower? mindset?

 

You know what I mean? Scrawny Kent's that can lift lots vs tanks that turn out to be pussies.. You see removalists and couriers and sparkles etc etc that are really damn fit and strong but they just look average. It's slightly confusing.

 

The answer is (1) how much and (2) what types of food they eat, and (3) how they train.

 

By and large, the greatest contributing factor to how you look is what you put in your mouth, and the greatest contributing factor to how strong you are is how you train.

 

Example 1: Stereotypical powerlifter/strongman may be incredibly strong, but look like shit, because they train to be strong, and eat shit.

 

Example 2: Stereotypical bodybuilder/phisique athelete may have an incredible body, but not very strong (comparitively to example 1), because they don't train in a way that builds strength, but they do eat in a way that makes their body look the way it does.

 

*what "looks" good is obviously subjective to the individual, speaking in general

Edited by GHOSTY

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Obviously once you get to a certain strength level you need to start to specialise, but under a 120-140 bench, 160-180 squat and 220-240 dead you shouldn't need to do any specialised or overly low rep training.

 

Unless your a girl!

 

:P

 

So you do lots of low rep training then :lol:

 

I havent specialised in anything yet i lift more than all those lifts you posted

but generally, it is strength is size and size is strength. "generally"

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Powerlifters 80-90% of time lift under 3 reps. And usually just 4 exercises too, the big four with exceptions to variety. BB lift usually 8-12. This is because it represents best musuclar growth.

 

This is horribly incorrect.

 

The majority of work is well over 3 reps and stretches far beyond 4 lifts. Any powerlifter worth their salt will spend most of their time on assistance work to help build their big 3.

 

 

 

Obviously once you get to a certain strength level you need to start to specialise, but under a 120-140 bench, 160-180 squat and 220-240 dead you shouldn't need to do any specialised or overly low rep training.

 

This is all relative to a person's bodyweight but still a bit off, if a person's goal is strength and they have at least reached an intermediate level they should most certainly focus on a specialised strength routine but in reference to my post above they will still spend the majority of their time doing assistance work outside of their low rep work.

 

 

 

 

Yeah that's a distinction I didn't make. The guys in strongmen competition can be burly rather than defined like bodybuilders. I guess they wouldn't work on muscles for aesthetics but I thought maybe there might be different approach to the way they train muscles. That reminds me... I've often wondered what the difference between a built but weak person, and a strong but lean person is. Pain threshold? Lactic acid? Willpower? mindset? You know what I mean? Scrawny Kent's that can lift lots vs tanks that turn out to be pussies.. You see removalists and couriers and sparkles etc etc that are really damn fit and strong but they just look average. It's slightly confusing.
The answer is (1) how much and (2) what types of food they eat, and (3) how they train. By and large, the greatest contributing factor to how you look is what you put in your mouth, and the greatest contributing factor to how strong you are is how you train. Example 1: Stereotypical powerlifter/strongman may be incredibly strong, but look like shit, because they train to be strong, and eat shit. Example 2: Stereotypical bodybuilder/phisique athelete may have an incredible body, but not very strong (comparitively to example 1), because they don't train in a way that builds strength, but they do eat in a way that makes their body look the way it does. *what "looks" good is obviously subjective to the individual, speaking in general

 

Hit the nail on the head right there Ghosty.

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Well ofcourse it is. I just

Didn't want to state obvious I'm on my phone most of the time. I mean you can write a fking book on this subject lol.

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