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If you go the wedding route you have to be 200% comitted. You're dealing with people special days you have a huge responsibility to take great photos and make sure you don't loose them or have a equipment failure.

 

Another avenue not mentioned is commercial photography. Tons of brands need photographers just like they need graphic designers etc. Contact every Advertising, Media and PR Agency you can find. They like to have photographers on hand to do a shoot for a media call etc on short notice.

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I've been taking photos for a year or so "professionally"

 

no way you can make money full time doing it as the comments here are very true, people think photos are free...

 

anyone wanting info on cameras/lenses advice for motorsport photography let me know

 

My Pics are up at my site here

 

I also print my own large formaty photos, banners, flags etc, so if you need any, I can do em cheap :)

 

Mark

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Bid lower.. To win the job.

Has heaps of graphics, photography and video work!

 

Even porno shooting! :lol:

 

Say one person bids 500 on the job

You can bid 450 if that's what you think the jobs worth, keep going lower until you win, or stop when it gets too low.

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I've been taking photos for a year or so "professionally"

 

no way you can make money full time doing it as the comments here are very true, people think photos are free...

 

anyone wanting info on cameras/lenses advice for motorsport photography let me know

 

My Pics are up at my site here

 

I also print my own large formaty photos, banners, flags etc, so if you need any, I can do em cheap :)

 

Mark

 

depends on what kind of photography ppl do man... if u have clients to take photos for then u can make a living of it .. of photographers work is good they continue to get more clients and grown...

 

iv been shooting now for 1 year and 8 months and iv been doing ur full time with not other work or income and im makeing a better living then what i was working for the government !

 

.. so it's depends in what kind of fried of photography u are in.. if u are shooting photos of stuff and then trying to sell it then yes very hard to make a living but if u are taking pics of models, fashion or events then it's work then continues with ur rep behind u pushing u with more work :)

 

My site - www.nickartphotography.com

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www.freelance.com.au

 

Bid lower.. To win the job.

Has heaps of graphics, photography and video work!

 

Even porno shooting! :lol:

 

Say one person bids 500 on the job

You can bid 450 if that's what you think the jobs worth, keep going lower until you win, or stop when it gets too low.

 

 

all that does is cheapen the industry. the person who can work for the least will get the job even if they take crap photos.

its just the way it works, you get what your worth and if you value yourself lower and lower just to get jobs eventually you will see yourself become worthless.

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I have to agree with J. Are you going to put the same amount of effort in on a $100 job as you would for a $1000 job? Maybe on the first one or two if you're optomistic, bright eyed and bushy tailed, but that enthusiasm will drop off and so will your quality of work, then your reputation. Big picture... if everyone is going around on the same circle everyone looses. People stop improving and pushing boundaries and the overall value of the service falls to nothing. Of course you'll still have the high end of the market that understands both the cost and effort, but the low to mid market will be dead, and already is dying.

 

sadly, this is already happening.

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that enthusiasm will drop off and so will your quality of work, then your reputation.

 

bingo! best way to destroy your future as a photographer? believe the hype and think that giving away shit for free will lead to paying work. all it leads to is customers who only use you cause they know they can get work for free.

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There is still market for high end wedding photographers. A fav photographer of mine just made a post on his blog stating he is booked out till 2013 and he charges like 10k for a wedding.

 

So if you are good people will pay for that extra quality.

 

Have some faith and build up your portfolio. It will take some years but thats like any business out there.

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I've been taking photos for a year or so "professionally"

 

no way you can make money full time doing it as the comments here are very true, people think photos are free...

 

anyone wanting info on cameras/lenses advice for motorsport photography let me know

 

My Pics are up at my site here

 

I also print my own large formaty photos, banners, flags etc, so if you need any, I can do em cheap :)

 

Mark

 

depends on what kind of photography ppl do man... if u have clients to take photos for then u can make a living of it .. of photographers work is good they continue to get more clients and grown...

 

iv been shooting now for 1 year and 8 months and iv been doing ur full time with not other work or income and im makeing a better living then what i was working for the government !

 

.. so it's depends in what kind of fried of photography u are in.. if u are shooting photos of stuff and then trying to sell it then yes very hard to make a living but if u are taking pics of models, fashion or events then it's work then continues with ur rep behind u pushing u with more work :)

 

My site - www.nickartphotography.com

 

Yeah much agreed, I should have qualified my statement by saying theres no way I could live off what I'm doing which is Karting and Mallala Motorsport shots. if I did it full time and focussed on Commercial stuff, I could do much better but don't have the urge :)

 

 

 

 

 

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www.freelance.com.au

 

Bid lower.. To win the job.

Has heaps of graphics, photography and video work!

 

Even porno shooting! :lol:

 

Say one person bids 500 on the job

You can bid 450 if that's what you think the jobs worth, keep going lower until you win, or stop when it gets too low.

 

 

all that does is cheapen the industry. the person who can work for the least will get the job even if they take crap photos.

its just the way it works, you get what your worth and if you value yourself lower and lower just to get jobs eventually you will see yourself become worthless.

 

Yeah I see your point.

But your bidding your self lower, if you know what I mean. I wouldn't do a $100 job for $20. That's just me.

Plus I'd hope there are terms and conditions for fair go. Say I wanted a sunset, but I got something different. I'd argue and contest that so I wouldn't pay.

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I could live solely off my photography, but I live in a town with pretty much 2 photographers. One of which I still find it hard calling her a photographer...

 

Basically I've found most money in studio shoots which are shit boring. I take about 3,000 plus shots at a drift event, and I'm more than happy to give these to the drivers, I don't do that for the money, i enjoy the sport and the more exposure it gets the better!

 

Any photographer who can live off motorsport photography... hats off to you!

AKA speedhunters :shades:

 

Nawwww, i think you will see that SpeedHunters or any of these 'car blog photographers' are not paid a cent.. Everybody is a Photographer now a days, I Was into Photography very heavily about 4years ago.. I got myself a Canon 350D(old school now a days) and enjoyed going out taking photos of events etc, Then as time went on more and more people got better Digital Camera's, Programs were easier to use, Programs would do all the hardwork for you.. Meaning myself as a "upcoming photographer" began to drop because a photo i would take would be seen for another 60angels by everybody around me.

 

Quit that shit fast, and only held onto my Kit Lenses.. Now i take photos of my own car and the camera hasn't left my house in a while.. I know alot of very big shot Automotive Photographers most of them have had to massively expand there businesses to accomidate more than just "photography" alot of them are now 3/4 Graphic Designers, It was the only way for them to stay alive, to many up comers with Lots of Photoshop experience and not to much actual Camera Experience were releasing some crazy rendered photos that not even the Pro's could keep up with.

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I know alot of very big shot Automotive Photographers most of them have had to massively expand there businesses to accomidate more than just "photography" alot of them are now 3/4 Graphic Designers, It was the only way for them to stay alive, to many up comers with Lots of Photoshop experience and not to much actual Camera Experience were releasing some crazy rendered photos that not even the Pro's could keep up with.

 

This. Unless your really good. I know heaps of auto photog's who make their living 100% off shooting cars/automotive related

and the guys who are struggling generally shoot weddings or product or something else to keep the small cash coming in.

 

at the end of the day, if your good you'll get work

 

I earn 100% of my money doing photography. only about 80% is automotive but its still all photography. If you 500% dedicated to something and do what ever it takes at all costs to succeed, then chances are you will.

 

In my opinion, the biggest mistake photographers make is thinking that you need to have really expensive gear. im still shooting on a shit 3 year old D90 and use some of the most ghetto materials when shooting cars :)

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at the end of the day, if your good you'll get work

 

this.

 

owning a camera and getting 'awesome pic' comments on facebook does not make you a pro that should be earning money

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I don't really agree with that either. Being good and getting work are different. You need a business head and a network to get work. If you're the best photographer in the world, but you're unable to get your work in front of the right people, work isn't just going to fall on top of you.

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I don't really agree with that either. Being good and getting work are different. You need a business head and a network to get work. If you're the best photographer in the world, but you're unable to get your work in front of the right people, work isn't just going to fall on top of you.

 

yeah but if your good, then you'll already have the business knowledge or at least know how to sell your work and get clients. you cant get good unless your doing work. its not like being an artist where you can paint in your basement for 10 years and not be discovered.

 

theres probably a lot of people who like to think their good, but thats because they are comparing themselves to photographers who are clearly below them, not comparing themselves to people who are clearly above them.

 

so when you say "If you're the best photographer in the world, but you're unable to get your work in front of the right people, work isn't just going to fall on top of you"

 

your wrong.. because how can you say your the best photographer in the world or can anyone else know you are unless your work proves it? and to have work which is the best in the world, you need to have clients paying you to produce the best work in the world

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basically, at the end of the day, 1/1,000,000 people make a living off motorport photogaphy... if that.

 

No one said you cant make a living out of photography, you can, quite easily. What you cant do, is make a living out of solely motorsport photography.

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