i got it back in May 07

I haven't read every page as i dont have time but just wondering if sr20det manual s13's are legal to drive on your P's? I remeber about 2 years ago there was alot of contraversary about this... what was the end outcome? So the question is simple Are sr20det 180sx and silvia allowed to drive on your P's?. (This is old rule P's aswell btw not the new rules....)

yea also wanted to know if u got ur licenses before july 2007 , is it legal to drive a SR20DET ??

how do we find out wot can & cant be done to a car?
i've got to go and visit every1s best friends at the pits the good old EPA. fun

You do have to pass EPA, and the history is very much of key interest.

If the EPA cancels your registration due to you failing/not getting the EPA cleared.
You must clear the EPA before the car can be registered/driven again as the engine number/chassis is flagged.


Ive just been through it all after 18months myself

Hey prof/smokey

Do you know the penalty for driving a manual while on my P's with auto restriction.

I want to get my manual, but the waiting list is two months and I can't really wait unfortunately.

Mind you, I havent done it yet - but i'm just wondering what the penalty is.

Note: I learned in a manual - would have done the test in it but it was not rwc at the time unfortunatly.

Driving a manual whilst on an auto restriction is 'disobey licence condition' or something like that. I think it's about $120 fine. Will find out for you tomorrow and post if Smokey or Prof haven't.

Thanks for that - Also, could it be driving without a valid license?

if you u dont have a vaild license u shouldnt b on the road.

im assuming u will have a longer sentence lost of license plus a court case

No it's not unlicensed driving as you still have a licence, it's just a condition of your licence that you must drive an auto until you have a full licence.

Ok excellent. So can anyone elaborate on the penalties?

cmarico - Fail to obey licence condition, $116 fine and no points. I'm 100% sure of this.

thinking along the same lines (driving under instruction)

driving manual on P's with (auto license +) full licanced manual driver in passenger seat

do you need L's up, P's up, or those strange "driver under instruction" plates?

AND who is legally driving, you or the person instructing, cos i remember on L's the instructor was legally driving...

If the driver is on P's, it makes no difference who is in the passenger seat as the driver is licensed and no longer a learner. So same penalty as above example. And yes, if the driver is on P's the P plates must be up.

Sorry 350Z

Thanks for the fine info before..

but your wrong about the above - A p plate drive with auto restriction CAN drive a manual provided he has a fully licensed driver next to them and is displaying 'driver under instruction' plates. These are not L plates, nor p's.

If they drive without a fully licensed driver, then see my scenario.

Im 100% sure of that one.

Interesting one that one as I am repeating what I've been told. I'll make some more enquiries and get back to you.

Yes, I checked it out and cmarico, you are correct. A 'P' Plate driver with an automatic condition can legally drive a manual car whilst 'under instruction' as long as he/she displays the 'driver under instruction' plate.

As they say, you learn something everyday. Sorry for the wrong info.

No problem mate .

Thanks for the help before too

Peace!

of course insurance/TAC wont cover you driving manual on auto p's without an accompanying driver... it could cost you alot more than $116!!!!!

im pretty sure tac will cover you as long as the car is registered.

Yep, that's what I've heard too. Vic Roads or Prof could give us a definite answer.

mate of mine got dicked for driving manual on auto licence, cops said that TAC wouldnt cover them.

I don't know the answer to this one. I'd suggest ringing the TAC and getting it from the horses mouth.

It does cover you, i remember reading about it for riding a larger motorbike when on restrictions. It even covers you for drink driving but your loss of income payments will be significantly reduced and it will pretty much only cover your medical bills. I will try to find the link..

found a link sorta... you just wont get loss of earnings but your medical bills are still covered -
http://www.tac.vic.gov.au/jsp/content/Navi...&pageID=538

are waste gates with adjusable push rods legal?

Something really valuable I learnt just last week.

If you own a trail bike or a bush basher on a farm. Get it registered even if the vehicle is subsequently completely unroadworthy.

The (TAC) insurance is still valid and will cover any medical bills should you have a really bad prang.

Doesn't even matter if you are unlicensed.

A friend of a friend crashed his trail bike and was left a quadraplegic, but fortunately all his massive medical bills, rehab therapy and ongoing care is funded by TAC. Now that's good value in a sad kind of way.

The Prof.

Interesting...I have had the TAC tell me they weren't going to cover somebody because the collision didn't occur on a road (no mention of status of rego).

Dunno what their criteria is...must change depending on who you talk to.

Can't add much to this except that farmers are apparently covered whilst their tractor ploughs a field. My friend's friend was fully off road when he had his prang and there were no questions. I can only repeat what I have been told, I didn't research it any further.....

The Prof.

Afternoon,

My old lady was involved in an accident over the weekend, she was not at fault, however was not insured at the time either. In the commotion after the incident, she didn't think to grab the other drivers insurance claim number + phone number, only got address, license number name.. which seems to be all the details you need if insured (usually covered, but was in the middle of changing insurers)

I understand police can't give out a persons phone number, but one of the locals suggested the only way to obtain his number is through a solicitor due to the freedom of information act.

I've exhausted all my usual sources, with no success, so I'm thinking my only option is to rock up to the guys house and ask for the details, seems slightly intrusive, but this stuff needs sorting.

Are there any other ways I can go about this? Just seems like a stupid amount of effort to grab a small number

Thanks
Glenn

You are only obliged to provide name, address and rego number in the event of a collision. The other person is not required to provide his phone number, and I really don't see why you would need it? You're much better off communicating by mail, even if it is slower.

Just figured it would be easier and quicker to get his claim number over the phone/in person instead of waiting a week or so turn around.. cars sitting in the panel shop just taking up space at the moment - guess it's better to have this stuff in writing though.

cheers anyway

Hey guys,

Got a bit of a question here...

I was doing ~75 in a 60 zone (roadworks at 10pm) in my camira and got pulled over. The cop didnt actually get my speed but said he though I was doing about 80, but because it was my first time for said he would just put it as 70 so I think sweet.

Anyway I drive off and look at the fine later and it has the following:

Alleged Speed: 70km/h
Allowed Speed: 60km/h

Infringment amount: $222
Demerit points: 3



I know that this is the fine for > 10 < 25km/h over

Is it worth arguing that the amount I was over on the fine, is not the correct amount for of demerit points and dollar amount? And if it is, who should I contact?

Thanks in advance.

Strange one that. I got a similar fine a few weeks ago for doing 10km/h over, (well I was doing 12km/h over but they take 2km/h off with the use of the Laser/Radar device) and photocopied it (reading it now) -

Exceed speed limit by 10km/h or more but less than 15km/hr.

$220 - 3 points - Monash TMU

So your speed was 70km/h in a 60km/h zone (10km/h over like mine) so your amount should be the same - $220 and 3 points.

I don't know if this makes the fine invalid. Smokey?

I would expect the notice will be reissued in due course once the Informant has the original returned to him from the Traffic Camera Office as an invalid notice.

Mine is a hand written notice Can I have it reissued for the correct $$ and points?

See above (you even quoted it!)

Ahhhh ok I see now. I wasn't sure because I have the original, but forgot they get a copy too haha thanks

Actually, no. You have the duplicate. The original went to the Traffic Camera Office. The triplicate stayed with the issuing member.

Just wondering if anyone knows,



Im planning on putting 2 new seats into my car, either reclining, or fixed back racing seats, (with harness') now,
harness will most likely be bolted to the parcel shelf (is there any other way eg to the floor or is that too much of an angle ?)


to do this legally im planning on removing my rear seats (car is a s13 silvia) so 2 door coupe, now when i remove the rear seats do i have to change anything on my registration / insurance about how it is only a 2 seater not a 4 seater anymore??


also, are harness' bolted to parcel shelf legal at all ?


trying to make my car undefectable as it is a daily / soon to be semi-track car on the weekends

Judas - do everything in writing thus creating a paper trail..

Will be much better if things get messy...

I leaned this the hard way..

are these rear lights Legal upon closer inspection that also have reflectors in the light housing us not sure how adr / rwc goes with some tint...

peak my last roady guy passed my tinted ones, no dramas!!!

just depends on the person

whats the fine for driving a manual car on an auto license and are there any demerit points for it?

this question has been asked by me before mate, search a couple of pages back

this may have been already covered buy im yet to find anything

im looking at buying a pair of racing seats now my question is since these are the universal type (from autobarn etc..) what do i need so these are street legal? i would have to have them engineered is this correct and what kind of pricing am i looking at for the privlege?

thanks

baru as far as i know you have to have it reregistered as a 2 seater only

i read on the vic roads sight that if your car is regod as a 4/5 seater all seats must beable to be filled at any time

114$, no points, void insurance

I cbf reading through to see if this has been covered but...how old does a car have to be to not comply to EPA regulations? 25yrs?

i think it is if the car didnt come out with a CAT the its fine... or like 1976 or something

Just a quick question..

Im moving from Tassie to Melb in late January. If my car is Tas registered are they going to hassle me about mods done to my car that are legal in Tas but not Victoria?


Cheers,

Jarrod