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cop laws ground clearance

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Posted 23 June 2009 - 08:55 PM

can someone please explain to my why there is the law against low cars??? being the minimum clearance or 100mm???


i've been done 4 times in like 2 weeks for this now and i cbf anymore.. why is there such a law??? help me understand!!!

thanks

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Posted 23 June 2009 - 09:11 PM

firstly how low is your car to begin with?

the law is there for the reason of ppls cars not bottoming out on potholes, speedhums n stuff.
it makes the car "unsafe"
as lame as it is thats wat we cop

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Posted 23 June 2009 - 09:21 PM

View Postskep, on Jun 23 2009, 08:55 PM, said:

can someone please explain to my why there is the law against low cars??? being the minimum clearance or 100mm???


i've been done 4 times in like 2 weeks for this now and i cbf anymore.. why is there such a law??? help me understand!!!

thanks



you have chopped springs, need i say more?

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Posted 23 June 2009 - 09:28 PM

lol skep suck it up kiddo! end up going out that night with chris?

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Posted 23 June 2009 - 09:44 PM

law is the law, suck it up.

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Posted 23 June 2009 - 09:56 PM

Main reason is if we all drove cars on the ground and it was 'Legal' then the government would need to fix Driveways, Potholes, Speed Humps to make them easier to drive over, or else everybody would be suing the government because they lost there exhaust/bodykit etc when driving..

Supposedly there's a safety reason behind it, but meh to that!

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 01:06 AM

just de rego ur car and defects can humm on ur nutts as they do mine

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 02:14 AM

reasons from what i understand are due to roads being damaged from scapres and bullshit
also if theres a collision(mainly front oncollisions) between a HIGH car eg. nissan patrol and a slammed s14 then the high car might have a greater risk for driver/passenger as it could climb on top..... or something along those lines i cant remember exactly

anyway...these reasons given by me or other NS members are not definite so best to ask vicroads or some shit... even some of them might not have a clue

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 10:22 AM

car must not be lower then 100mm at any point of the car

front and rear bumper
cat
exhaust tips
etc etc

if any point is lower then 100mm from a flat surface it is defectable

if you want ur car low then you gotta cop it once in a while :P

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 10:32 AM

some benz's and bmw's come standard with 96-97mm

Car can be lower than 100mm, should it be ADR approved.

good luck getting ADR approval on a modified car........

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 10:54 AM

^^yeha i have seen brand new cars that come out low as..like Ferrari's, new fords, new holdens from factory etc. i haven't measured but iam sure its lower then 100m.

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 11:02 AM

its because our cars might rape people. as we are a bunch of rapists....well thats how were treated anyway :lol:

as far as im aware there was a new rulling due to all the new cars coming in below 100mm that it depends on the manufactures settings. so its just a bullshit blanket effect for the cops to do you easily.

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 08:54 PM

Also remember they are free to test you with people in the car.

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Posted 25 June 2009 - 10:10 AM

some rule a while back
full load of people + full tank of fuel u can take off 20... or 25% to u can have ur car sitting on 75mm or something

i doubt it was ever true

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Posted 25 June 2009 - 02:56 PM

I had to take mine in for inspection at vicroads. they listed a BS load of reasons already listed in this thread on why its 'safety factor' blah blah
Basically the cheif inspector tried to tell me that the ground clearance must not be lower than 100mm with a full car load of people (all seats filled), full tank of petrol, and a full bootload.

Now tell me.. if for some miraculous reason i decide to have a 200kg heffa in the back, and another 150kg one in the front, and the car is handling like a piece of shit.. and the brakes are under MASSIVE struggle.. yet the height is still 100mm.. how that is SO much safer than having the car slightly lower, yet be able to BRAKE if need be?

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Posted 25 June 2009 - 06:33 PM

View PostAHHH, on Jun 24 2009, 09:22 AM, said:

car must not be lower then 100mm at any point of the car

front and rear bumper
cat
exhaust tips
etc etc

if any point is lower then 100mm from a flat surface it is defectable

if you want ur car low then you gotta cop it once in a while :P


i thought its measured from the diff????? :S

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Posted 25 June 2009 - 06:43 PM

reminds me of when the cops did fink in his onevia

"do you know why we have this law? it is so if a child is playing on the street and falls over if you hit them then they are able to go under the car without getting caught up"

we all lolled coz what kid is 100mm when laying flat?

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Posted 25 June 2009 - 06:46 PM

its a load of shit just like no pod if you have an intercooler but that 80s ute with shit brakes is fine, they never get pulled over or an illegally lifted 4wd. the double standards in this state are a joke.

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Posted 25 June 2009 - 06:50 PM

View Posti_s2_nismo, on Jun 25 2009, 05:33 PM, said:

View PostAHHH, on Jun 24 2009, 09:22 AM, said:

car must not be lower then 100mm at any point of the car

front and rear bumper
cat
exhaust tips
etc etc

if any point is lower then 100mm from a flat surface it is defectable

if you want ur car low then you gotta cop it once in a while :P


i thought its measured from the diff????? :S



It can be from the lowest point of the vehicle. whether it be diff, exhaust, side skits. whatever the cop pleases.

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Posted 25 June 2009 - 09:41 PM

View Poststufeet, on Jun 25 2009, 06:43 PM, said:

reminds me of when the cops did fink in his onevia

"do you know why we have this law? it is so if a child is playing on the street and falls over if you hit them then they are able to go under the car without getting caught up"


Even I think that's a freaking stupid comment! :rolleyes:

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Posted 25 June 2009 - 10:45 PM

simple keep it above 100mm and there is no problem.. they use the fully laden crap to get you to raise it even further... its nothing to do with heffas... they dont fit in silvias... holdens and fords maybe... I got defected on they way back from summernats in my s15... they got me for too low even on an uneven road... got the clearance fixed and got a blue slip... but they didnt put 5 people in the car to do it..

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Posted 26 June 2009 - 12:01 AM

View PostPeter89, on Jun 25 2009, 05:46 PM, said:

its a load of shit just like no pod if you have an intercooler but that 80s ute with shit brakes is fine, they never get pulled over or an illegally lifted 4wd. the double standards in this state are a joke.


Yeah they do.

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Posted 26 June 2009 - 12:18 AM

the measuring device most cops use out there is tiny, not even 10cm from what i could tell.. but its fair enough in a way
sure the car might look mad really low but its a pain in the ass, i use to love it but im so over slowing down on speed bumps, going side ways not to scrape blah blah. 10cm looks good anyways and youl actually be able to go over stuff. ;)

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Posted 26 June 2009 - 01:27 AM

thanks everyone for the comments.

even tho i have chopped springs in it, the body of the car and everything sits on 100mm.. now.. if i have stockies on it sits below.. if i got my 17's on it clears it.

anyway... im getting coilovers and fukn off my choppies.. (if any1 wants to buy em they tuff to drift on fully sick and shit LOL) then im going to adjust the height so everything clears 100mm exact.. carry a fkn ruler around with me so if i do get done and a cop goes.. 'mate your car is way too low' i'll hand him the ruler and say measure it..

i cbf with them anymore.. and btw just to add.. i just got my defect off 2 days ago.. and just got one put back on tonight :(


anyone wana buy my car?
lmfao

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Posted 26 June 2009 - 01:40 AM

View Postskep, on Jun 26 2009, 12:27 AM, said:

i cbf with them anymore.. and btw just to add.. i just got my defect off 2 days ago.. and just got one put back on tonight :(


anyone wana buy my car?
lmfao

what you get done for
how awesome is it bouncing around on choppys :P

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Posted 26 June 2009 - 02:51 AM

skep jus slam it on the ground as much as it can go n get the 'special RWC' when u got defected...too easy

also don't forget to laugh through the whole process :)

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Posted 26 June 2009 - 12:40 PM

need my special rwc faaaaaark

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Posted 26 June 2009 - 02:51 PM

No
You need another car

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Posted 26 June 2009 - 02:52 PM

narrr

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Posted 26 June 2009 - 04:00 PM

or just drive normally and not in infected areas. If you can get to your thru backstreets and not going on a mainroad... do it. it works for me. sacrifice something to keep your car looking BOSS

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