[DR1FTA]

does anyone know what the cages are made out of?
got my hands on a 4 point, and want to add in the diagonal bar and also a few extra bars.
i dont actually know what its made of tho. obviously steel but is there a certain type?

cheers in advance

[little-cherri]

in before lock

[DR1FTA]

huh? lol

[flurosil80]

seamless tube my dad imports it and sell sto v8 supercars so good enough for tem good enough for you

[DR1FTA]

sweet thanks for that mate

[180sx allan]

its not the four point that was in my car was it?

[DR1FTA]

sure aint. wouldnt know if it was ne way lol.
nah its from a mate of a mate.

[antonio]

1020 Grade, CAMS Approved.

What brand is your cage?

[kriss]

get tristan to get u the materials he works for a steel company

[robzilla]

i couldn't afford real steel so i just went to bunnings and bought a heap of 2" PVC pipe and assorted bends.

Only took me an arvo to knock up a half cage and looks just like the real thing!

check it

[Letsld]

40mm seamless carbon steel is what the rool cage i was gonna buy made out of

[.ady]

robzilla, on Jun 23 2009, 10:24 PM, said:

i couldn't afford real steel so i just went to bunnings and bought a heap of 2" PVC pipe and assorted bends.

Only took me an arvo to knock up a half cage and looks just like the real thing!

check it

hahahha budget slider so ghetto

[japcars]

^^^lol madd job

[tin-pain]

robzilla, on Jun 23 2009, 10:24 PM, said:

i couldn't afford real steel so i just went to bunnings and bought a heap of 2" PVC pipe and assorted bends.

Only took me an arvo to knock up a half cage and looks just like the real thing!

check it

LOLL that was hilarious. love it.

[HokeyKE70]

you don't have to go overboard unless you want the cage to be up to cams standards. if you go to an exhaust shop they'll be able to get you some tube that'll be suitable

[McTerrorist]

DR1FTA, on Jun 23 2009, 07:48 PM, said:

sure aint. wouldnt know if it was ne way lol.
nah its from a mate of a mate.

thats wat they all say kane

[DjeMz]

.ady, on Jun 24 2009, 12:00 AM, said:

robzilla, on Jun 23 2009, 10:24 PM, said:

i couldn't afford real steel so i just went to bunnings and bought a heap of 2" PVC pipe and assorted bends.

Only took me an arvo to knock up a half cage and looks just like the real thing!

check it

hahahha budget slider so ghetto

BAHAHAHHAHAHA that would do more damage then good! love 2 see the look on the cops faces when u pulled up in that... let alone scrutineering at winton!

[Jimmo]

i want one.

[180Roman]

Chrommoly is what they use to make cages i think, its Chromium and Molybdenum mild steel

[antonio]

180roman, 40mm Chromoly is what Cusco cages are made out of, Safety21 use 40mm Steel, Theres so many debates on strength vs weight bla bla bla...

Safety21 ftw imo

[Ryan_RB]

antonio, on Jun 24 2009, 01:42 PM, said:

180roman, 40mm Chromoly is what Cusco cages are made out of, Safety21 use 40mm Steel, Theres so many debates on strength vs weight bla bla bla...

Safety21 ftw imo

Cusco makes Safety21 lol eg http://www.rhdjapan....n-Bar-Kit-56559
full cage like my 7 point is 1600ish

[antonio]

Cusco and Safety21 are made with different materials, Even if Cusco owns Safety21 i wouldnt know the exact reason as to why they release the cages in 2 different materials i guess theres a market for it....

http://www.cusco.co..../roll_cage.html

[180Roman]

well since Chromoly is 33% lighter i guess it would be the one to go for if you dont want to add to much weight with a cage, but i think chromoly is also a bit more expensive the carbon steel, so it all depends on purpose and how much money you are willing to spend.

[anticeptik]

Pending on which cage you get, i do not think saftey 21 are seamless cold extruded, i think they are just 100% normal mild steel with a 2mm wall.

Antonio price is a big factor in differnt materials.
Dunno if the price is differnt from where they retail but if they are the same and your stupid enough to buy the cheaper one to make, cusco come out on top either way.
You would also have to look into how they are manufactured, ie with robots, what weld is used etc, this will all determin cost

I wouldnt be greatly concerned about whats made of what on a bolt in cage, especially a dash evade, from my point of view some bends arent exactly from a "roll over" point of view.

Honestly mate if you going to make yourself some bars up, ( i have ), i just used mild steel with 3mm walls. and i turned up some spiggots (this was for a cross brace) and welded the spigget in the tube which i cut to length

[Ryan_RB]

anticeptik, on Jun 24 2009, 05:39 PM, said:

Pending on which cage you get, i do not think saftey 21 are seamless cold extruded, i think they are just 100% normal mild steel with a 2mm wall.

Antonio price is a big factor in differnt materials.
Dunno if the price is differnt from where they retail but if they are the same and your stupid enough to buy the cheaper one to make, cusco come out on top either way.
You would also have to look into how they are manufactured, ie with robots, what weld is used etc, this will all determin cost

I wouldnt be greatly concerned about whats made of what on a bolt in cage, especially a dash evade, from my point of view some bends arent exactly from a "roll over" point of view.

Honestly mate if you going to make yourself some bars up, ( i have ), i just used mild steel with 3mm walls. and i turned up some spiggots (this was for a cross brace) and welded the spigget in the tube which i cut to length

bolt-in= stiffness IMO, not safety, if you are worried about safety then you go to brown davis/meridian and spend 2k+ on a ADR/CAMS legal 6point weld in cage at the minimum!

[.ady]

pvc piping cage FTW! light weight and shit i mean no weight LOL

[CANDYMAN]

robzilla, on Jun 23 2009, 09:54 PM, said:

i couldn't afford real steel so i just went to bunnings and bought a heap of 2" PVC pipe and assorted bends.

Only took me an arvo to knock up a half cage and looks just like the real thing!

check it

This brought a tear to my eye hahha

[DR1FTA]

antonio, on Jun 23 2009, 08:12 PM, said:

1020 Grade, CAMS Approved.

What brand is your cage?

its a cusco cage

kriss, on Jun 23 2009, 08:56 PM, said:

get tristan to get u the materials he works for a steel company

might just do that. thought he was electrical wholesaler for some reason lol.

[anticeptik]

Ryan_RB, on Jun 23 2009, 08:13 PM, said:

anticeptik, on Jun 24 2009, 05:39 PM, said:

Pending on which cage you get, i do not think saftey 21 are seamless cold extruded, i think they are just 100% normal mild steel with a 2mm wall.

Antonio price is a big factor in differnt materials.
Dunno if the price is differnt from where they retail but if they are the same and your stupid enough to buy the cheaper one to make, cusco come out on top either way.
You would also have to look into how they are manufactured, ie with robots, what weld is used etc, this will all determin cost

I wouldnt be greatly concerned about whats made of what on a bolt in cage, especially a dash evade, from my point of view some bends arent exactly from a "roll over" point of view.

Honestly mate if you going to make yourself some bars up, ( i have ), i just used mild steel with 3mm walls. and i turned up some spiggots (this was for a cross brace) and welded the spigget in the tube which i cut to length

bolt-in= stiffness IMO, not safety, if you are worried about safety then you go to brown davis/meridian and spend 2k+ on a ADR/CAMS legal 6point weld in cage at the minimum!

Yeah, basicly the same opinion. Allthough given a bolt in is beter than nothing.

DR1FTA, on Jun 23 2009, 09:03 PM, said:

antonio, on Jun 23 2009, 08:12 PM, said:

1020 Grade, CAMS Approved.

What brand is your cage?

its a cusco cage

Given that its chromolly

.ady, on Jun 23 2009, 08:40 PM, said:

pvc piping cage FTW! light weight and shit i mean no weight LOL

chasis regidity increased?, i think not