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want some noisee - can it be done screamer pipe on stock turbo/manifold

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 03:48 PM

GUYs
can a internally wastegated turbo be run so it has a screamer pipe
basically stock turbo but want a screamer pipe for the sound lol
i know its not legal blah, blah
can this be done without much hassel

cheers

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 03:51 PM

yes buy a dump pipe with a screamer

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 04:04 PM

buy a split dump and cut the split where it joins back to the dump

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 04:11 PM

ok sounds good
any pics of this thing

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 04:16 PM

View Postpurple5ive, on Jun 16 2009, 02:48 PM, said:

GUYs
can a internally wastegated turbo be run so it has a screamer pipe
basically stock turbo but want a screamer pipe for the sound lol
i know its not legal blah, blah
can this be done without much hassel

cheers


Stock turbo + Screamer = :no:

They spool to easily, it would just get annoying for daily driving? :S

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 04:17 PM

Stock turbo + Screamer = sleepless nights for your neighbors :lol::lol::lol::lol:

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 04:21 PM

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sorry about my shitty drawing but i hope u get the picture. the green bit means your have to get the hole tht is there welded upand obviously cut on the red lines

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 04:22 PM

arggh crap some b@strad will dob me in then
its a hiflow ct26 off a MR2 so its got to be a custom job i think

so you guys dont recommend it ehhh

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 04:25 PM

easy way to rob yourself of power if not done properly.

need to be able to seal the two sections off completely or you will have a mass exhaust leak = loss of power = not really worth the hassles.

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 04:31 PM

meh to loss of power. sounds tuff

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 04:39 PM

we can help u out

http://hardtuned.net...amp;hl=external

basically wat we do is weld ur internal gate shut then modify ur exhaust manifold to suit an external gate
OR
we can modify ur exhaust housing to suit an external gate by welding the external gate flange str8 onto the exhaust housing <-- most people do with this option because its more eazy to hide the gate

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 04:40 PM

yeh thats the way id go about it. weld up the internal gate and weld on external :thumbsup:

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 04:43 PM

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sorry about my shitty drawing but i hope u get the picture. the green bit means your have to get the hole tht is there welded upand obviously cut on the red lines

that has got to be the most crappy way to go about it
the internal gate neva seals 100% like an external gate does so ur going to be driving around with an exhaust leak and we all know how annoying an exhaust leak sound is

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 05:43 PM

but why go to the extra cost if he just wants to have a screamer, like sure, pay and get an external and modify the exhaust, but if your not looking at at doing any further mods then its not really worth the cash, better off welding the gktech one and having fun with that, plus it wont stand out as much and you can change the dump pretty easily considering the other option.


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Posted 16 June 2009 - 09:29 PM

tight arse, buy a proper set up

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 09:31 PM

View PostTRB-S2K, on Jun 16 2009, 04:43 PM, said:

but why go to the extra cost if he just wants to have a screamer, like sure, pay and get an external and modify the exhaust, but if your not looking at at doing any further mods then its not really worth the cash, better off welding the gktech one and having fun with that, plus it wont stand out as much and you can change the dump pretty easily considering the other option.


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did i not make myself clear enuff???

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that has got to be the most crappy way to go about it
the internal gate neva seals 100% like an external gate does so ur going to be driving around with an exhaust leak and we all know how annoying an exhaust leak sound is


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Posted 16 June 2009 - 09:48 PM

i got a cut n shut screamer (came wtih my new turbo)... yes it leaks n yes it sounds kinda crap but when ur limiter bashing a rb25 on gate.... who the hell cares about 10-15kw loss!

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 10:09 AM

ok i got the first bit about welding the internal gate shut and mounting the external gate on the exhaust manifold

but what about the second option which i cant understand

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OR
we can modify ur exhaust housing to suit an external gate by welding the external gate flange str8 onto the exhaust housing <-- most people do with this option because its more eazy to hide the gate



im not really keen on the first one for the reasons of if i get reamed the task of pullign turbo and manifold on a mid engined car is a pita and somethign i dont want to do or pay someone an arm to do either

i dont mind the divorced dump pipe as its the easiest of the lot to fix if get reamed but exhaust leak and power loss is putting me off it lol

would a divored dump with the internal wategate removed but an external gate added to the end of the divorced dump work
hope that makes sense

cheers

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 11:32 AM

they weld the wastegate flange to the exhaust housing of the turbo, thus making the engine bay still appear stock.

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 12:06 PM

so if they do that
then how does the dump pipe attach to the exhaust housing

got any pics of this setup as i can picture this in my head lol
ps- i cant see any pics posted so if its already in there apologies

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 12:13 PM

OMG!!!

ill try and explain it as simple as i can

the dump pipe still bolts onto the exhaust housing like standard
the external gate flange is welded onto the exhaust housing as well (it has nothing to do with the dump pipe)

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 12:53 PM

sorry bro i just cant figure it out
maybe some pics will help me

will this be easy to unbolt if i get reamed or is it a non reversible process
sorry mate im just not really sure how this method works lol

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 01:04 PM

u wont be able to see if unless ur looking from under the car

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 01:19 PM

View PostSTR8E180, on Jun 17 2009, 11:34 AM, said:

u wont be able to see if unless ur looking from under the car



and how much is all that gonna cost????

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 02:14 PM

if u want screamer go proper turbo with external gate.
if u want noise install a gay BOV or drill a hole in ur exhaust.

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 02:42 PM

This is a little off topic but do you know what specs the highflow ct26 has? how much power is it rated at?

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 03:30 PM

this wont fit your supra mate lolllll its off a mr2 and they arent compatible
turbo has been hiflowed by someone else have the specs somewhere, something about a 80trim i remember

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 03:40 PM

View Posttets, on Jun 17 2009, 04:14 AM, said:

if u want screamer go proper turbo with external gate.
if u want noise install a gay BOV or drill a hole in ur exhaust.


i dont want big power which is why i chose to get a hiflowed turbo and not somethign aftermarket
just thought id see if the screamer can be incorporated into this system without much hassel
obviouslt this is just for the noise and to have some fun here and there so im not going to waste money on a new turbo for that

cheers

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 03:44 PM

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i got a cut n shut screamer yes it leaks n yes it sounds kinda crap but when ur limiter bashing a rb25 on gate.... who the hell cares about 10-15kw loss!


lol, that could sooo be my new sig

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 05:17 PM

View Postpurple5ive, on Jun 17 2009, 03:40 PM, said:

View Posttets, on Jun 17 2009, 04:14 AM, said:

if u want screamer go proper turbo with external gate.
if u want noise install a gay BOV or drill a hole in ur exhaust.


i dont want big power which is why i chose to get a hiflowed turbo and not somethign aftermarket
just thought id see if the screamer can be incorporated into this system without much hassel
obviouslt this is just for the noise and to have some fun here and there so im not going to waste money on a new turbo for that

cheers


then go with what Emz said!

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