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ARC side mount intercooler - s15 How good? should I?

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Posted 23 September 2006 - 06:37 PM

Hi,

So I’m up for my next mod – intercooler and engine management. (current mods: full exhaust, pod)

Looking for an intercooler that I don’t have to go through the battery tray – heard of a number of people getting done for this (head F**k to reverse)! !

Was thinking about either the ARC intercooler that hooks back up to standard piping (but then I’ll be chucking my standard air box back on – need to keep my car lookin legal), or an ARC Side mount intercooler (and keep my pod). Does anyone here run either of these?

I don’t know how much power I can push out with a side mount?

The other issue is, either of these coolers are so bloody hard to find! Any help would be appreciated.

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p.s. don’t tell me to just go through the battery tray – I want to keep my car stealth and looking legal.

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Posted 23 September 2006 - 06:39 PM

ARC make a fmic which runs off the stock piping,
so no cutting, a customer runs it and with out problems
makes over 200rwks on his s13

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Posted 23 September 2006 - 07:21 PM

View PostBlakS15, on Sep 23 2006, 05:37 PM, said:

So I’m up for my next mod – intercooler and engine management. (current mods: full exhaust, pod)

p.s. don’t tell me to just go through the battery tray – I want to keep my car stealth and looking legal.

So I guess you know you can only have either AM intercooler or pod in melb to stay legal, that's why you are looking for a SMIC to sneak through.

I don't have it, but it will definitely be better than stock, although a FMIC will be much better for the same amount of money.

You can still be defected if they know how to look.

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Posted 23 September 2006 - 08:53 PM

The ARC side mount is around 100mm thick compared to 80mm for the standard s15 cooler. Not that much of a difference and they are damn expensive. Maybe get a custom side mount made up, but I haven't seen too many 100mm cores you could cut up.

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Posted 23 September 2006 - 10:03 PM

http://www.nengun.co...ogue/product/77

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Posted 24 September 2006 - 02:15 AM

Thanks for your replies

Yeah I know it illegal to have AM cooler + Pod, that’s why I want a SMIC – at least it’s just a little less obvious.

In all the cruises I’ve been to, and all I’ve read, I haven’t seen any s15 with an aftermarket SMIC. Was just hoping someone here had one and could tell me how much power you can push with one.

My other option is to go for the ARC that uses the standard piping (and revert back to standard airbox) – do you think standard airbox with something like a K&N filter would limit my power gains greatly?

Mr Chew – Thanks for the site, good prices too.

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Posted 24 September 2006 - 03:02 AM

I used to have a Blitz bar and plate SMIC...

Worked a treat, it was the same height and lenght of the stock cooler but was heaps thicker.

No lag and could handle up to 220rwkw.

It was quite expensive though.

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Posted 24 September 2006 - 06:00 AM

View PostBlakS15, on Sep 24 2006, 01:15 AM, said:

My other option is to go for the ARC that uses the standard piping (and revert back to standard airbox) – do you think standard airbox with something like a K&N filter would limit my power gains greatly?

Aftermarket intercoolers are good because they allow you to up the boost further. So power gains, AMIC > pod filter of cuz.

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Posted 24 September 2006 - 05:15 PM

View PostFrankie, on Sep 23 2006, 04:02 PM, said:

I used to have a Blitz bar and plate SMIC...

Worked a treat, it was the same height and lenght of the stock cooler but was heaps thicker.

No lag and could handle up to 220rwkw.

It was quite expensive though.



Where did you get the Blitz SMIC from?

Do you guys think the ARC FMIC that uses factory piping would be laggy?

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Posted 24 September 2006 - 05:21 PM

Get Predator FMIC+radiator combo kit
shortest pipe length..
massive increase in response compared to other FMIC i had
... looks stock from outside

keep the airbox...

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Posted 24 September 2006 - 05:50 PM

View Postwisdom3molar, on Sep 24 2006, 06:21 PM, said:

Get Predator FMIC+radiator combo kit
shortest pipe length..
massive increase in response compared to other FMIC i had
... looks stock from outside

keep the airbox...



Not to mention they cost an arm and a leg!!!

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Posted 24 September 2006 - 06:04 PM

View PostBlakS15, on Sep 24 2006, 04:15 PM, said:

View PostFrankie, on Sep 23 2006, 04:02 PM, said:

I used to have a Blitz bar and plate SMIC...

Worked a treat, it was the same height and lenght of the stock cooler but was heaps thicker.

No lag and could handle up to 220rwkw.

It was quite expensive though.



Where did you get the Blitz SMIC from?

Do you guys think the ARC FMIC that uses factory piping would be laggy?


Got the Blitz SMIC off roguepi bout 2 years ago... The arc front mount that i have seen runs along the front twice plus the hot pipe from the turbo, so after the air is cooled by the FMIC it has to travel a fair distance before it enters the TB and will more likely heat back up again...

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Posted 24 September 2006 - 09:57 PM

View Postwisdom3molar, on Sep 24 2006, 04:21 PM, said:

Get Predator FMIC+radiator combo kit
shortest pipe length..
massive increase in response compared to other FMIC i had
... looks stock from outside

keep the airbox...

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yer and only 800 bucks more then it would cost to make the same kit

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Posted 24 September 2006 - 11:13 PM

View Postspandex, on Sep 24 2006, 10:57 AM, said:

View Postwisdom3molar, on Sep 24 2006, 04:21 PM, said:

Get Predator FMIC+radiator combo kit
shortest pipe length..
massive increase in response compared to other FMIC i had
... looks stock from outside

keep the airbox...

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yer and only 800 bucks more then it would cost to make the same kit

;) you should make similar kits and sell it for less... ;)
i reckon it would be a seller

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Posted 25 September 2006 - 12:13 AM

ye i would buy one. do it!

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Posted 25 September 2006 - 01:21 AM

View Postwisdom3molar, on Sep 24 2006, 10:13 PM, said:

View Postspandex, on Sep 24 2006, 10:57 AM, said:

View Postwisdom3molar, on Sep 24 2006, 04:21 PM, said:

Get Predator FMIC+radiator combo kit
shortest pipe length..
massive increase in response compared to other FMIC i had
... looks stock from outside

keep the airbox...

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yer and only 800 bucks more then it would cost to make the same kit

;) you should make similar kits and sell it for less... ;)
i reckon it would be a seller



View Post180SXR, on Sep 24 2006, 11:13 PM, said:

ye i would buy one. do it!


GkTech is working on it!

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Posted 25 September 2006 - 01:36 AM

View Post180SXR, on Sep 24 2006, 11:13 PM, said:

ye i would buy one. do it!



you know i can always get you one



if you want quality ill make you one

fact is they ant a cheap kit to make and leave sitting waiting for a customer to buy it
most customers want gauges installed or temp sensors in the coolers so you cant weld up a full kit and expect
ppl to buy it, its like the cheap hybrid piping. theres no nipple for the wastegate on it..
small things like that matter to many customers



eron
sick ill chuck on the taiwan made manifold as well while im there :lol:
ppl spend 1000's on their motors and want top quality items. but when it comes to ns everyone wants cheap shinny stuff dont matter if it really works or not ;)

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Posted 25 September 2006 - 10:35 PM

View Postspandex, on Sep 25 2006, 12:36 AM, said:

View Post180SXR, on Sep 24 2006, 11:13 PM, said:

ye i would buy one. do it!


eron
sick ill chuck on the taiwan made manifold as well while im there :lol:
ppl spend 1000's on their motors and want top quality items. but when it comes to ns everyone wants cheap shinny stuff dont matter if it really works or not ;)


I myself have spent tens of thousands on both my GTi-R and my R32 SR20 powered 4 door.

That said I'm using many Chinese/Taiwanese products that we sell on the cars as are the thousands of customers that we have dealt with over the years. I certainly wouldn't be using them if they were nothing but top quality.

P.S for the record we are working on a kit but it will be quite a while off yet :(

Greg

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Posted 25 September 2006 - 11:49 PM

View PostGKTECH, on Sep 25 2006, 09:35 PM, said:

View Postspandex, on Sep 25 2006, 12:36 AM, said:

View Post180SXR, on Sep 24 2006, 11:13 PM, said:

ye i would buy one. do it!


eron
sick ill chuck on the taiwan made manifold as well while im there :lol:
ppl spend 1000's on their motors and want top quality items. but when it comes to ns everyone wants cheap shinny stuff dont matter if it really works or not ;)


I myself have spent tens of thousands on both my GTi-R and my R32 SR20 powered 4 door.

That said I'm using many Chinese/Taiwanese products that we sell on the cars as are the thousands of customers that we have dealt with over the years. I certainly wouldn't be using them if they were nothing but top quality.

P.S for the record we are working on a kit but it will be quite a while off yet :(

Greg


greg i didnt mean it too you, i just dont like stainless manifolds one bit.
nothing towards you or ur products mate
everyone is more then happy with your products so i dont see a problem at all with where its made from

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Posted 26 September 2006 - 09:55 AM

View Postspandex, on Sep 25 2006, 10:49 PM, said:

View PostGKTECH, on Sep 25 2006, 09:35 PM, said:

View Postspandex, on Sep 25 2006, 12:36 AM, said:

View Post180SXR, on Sep 24 2006, 11:13 PM, said:

ye i would buy one. do it!


eron
sick ill chuck on the taiwan made manifold as well while im there :lol:
ppl spend 1000's on their motors and want top quality items. but when it comes to ns everyone wants cheap shinny stuff dont matter if it really works or not ;)


I myself have spent tens of thousands on both my GTi-R and my R32 SR20 powered 4 door.

That said I'm using many Chinese/Taiwanese products that we sell on the cars as are the thousands of customers that we have dealt with over the years. I certainly wouldn't be using them if they were nothing but top quality.

P.S for the record we are working on a kit but it will be quite a while off yet :(

Greg


greg i didnt mean it too you, i just dont like stainless manifolds one bit.
nothing towards you or ur products mate
everyone is more then happy with your products so i dont see a problem at all with where its made from


That's okay, I just wanted to clarify :)

cheers,
Greg

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