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#1 Cooper

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 12:02 PM

http://news.ninemsn....ther-raping-her


She will face no charges even though she fully admits she lied just to get rid of her father.

#2 MidnightMods

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 12:16 PM

Shows how much power a girl/woman has over the justice system when sexual claims are made.

#3 essare

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 12:31 PM

Wtf?

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#4 Veafo

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 12:46 PM

Girls man...

Here's a screenshot from bodybuilding.com
Amazing shit.

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#5 resistance

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 12:51 PM

ive had two ex's do something similar to me, the first got me pretty much kicked out of the army and the second stopped me from going back in.

i learned my lesson, have been single for the last 3 years and have just got back in the army finally.



MORAL OF THE STORY: women have a few key uses... sex, cooking and cleaning. In that order.

Edited by resistance, 04 April 2012 - 12:52 PM.


#6 keyhole150

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 01:12 PM

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She will not face charges because prosecutors fear it may stop others in similar situations from coming forward.


Oh no, stop all those other girls lying about their fathers being pedophiles!

As Kemp would say

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EDIT: I think this would also be one of the few times it'd be completely ok to disown your child.

Edited by keyhole150, 04 April 2012 - 01:13 PM.


#7 Pervy

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 03:23 PM

It's actually sickening how often these false rape claims happen.

#8 MI55EE

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 03:27 PM

i full don't understand why people do these types of things. with all my boyfriends i've had, i just try cope with it best i can. i wouldnt go destroying there things or lives. not worth it. if its not ment to be, you re-arrange your life and deal with it. some chicks are f**king crazy. my boyfriend im with now, ive been with a year and a half, his ex, STILL stalks us, hacks other peoples facebooks, to see what we are doing. she used to send 6 messages a day & photo's of her with his dog... constantly calling. send massive love poems, then go nuts cause he wont reply, for obvious reasons, then shed send antoher one saying im sorry please talk to me. it was weird. and used to tell him all the time she loved him, and this is when she is pregnant to another boyfriend. then she used to sign up to weird things like pro activ, using his name, and we'd get bills. it was f**ked. he used to tell her day in and day out he hated her and leave him alone. this bitch was physcotic. never seen anything like it. id never do shit like that.

and as for people lying, to get things out of there life, thats so wrong. im not sure how wrecking someone elses live is ment to bring happiness...
techincally. its karma's job.
and if you miserable, because you f**ked up. you dont take it out on other people.

end rant.

#9 Lucas.

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 04:24 PM

"This is the kind of thing that shouldn't happen."






WHAT THE f**k.........................



this world is f**ked..... i literally have no hope for mankind

#10 omg_its_trent

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 04:35 PM

I would re watch every season of Dexter and go to town on the lieing bitch

#11 spongeboy

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 06:59 PM

They should make a porno based on the true story.. And call it double jeopardy...

#12 Peter89

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 08:52 PM

I find it sicken that any person could go to jail without PHYSICAL evidence.

Medical knowledge of raping isn't new, has been around for years. Medical examinations can tell if a person has been raped.

#13 EnFlaMEd

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 08:59 PM

View Postspongeboy, on 04 April 2012 - 06:59 PM, said:

They should make a porno based on the true story.. And call it double jeopardy...

bahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#14 Damit

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 10:04 PM

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#15 Datsun240z

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 10:35 PM

Firstly, double jeopardy as has already been suggested.

Secondly,
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#16 TheApothecary

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 10:43 PM

Pretty sure this is a REALLLLLLLLY old southpark episode...

#17 buoy

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 12:09 AM

I clicked on the top link, read the article and all I wanted to do was post up one line............. but then I read all this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ holy shit. that story about the ex is completely f**ked up! :o

anyway, here's the quote as to why she isn't prosecuted and it makes sense..... kinda.... in a big picture kind of way:

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She will not face charges because prosecutors fear it may stop others in similar situations from coming forward.



#18 MidnightMods

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 12:22 AM

She has screwed his whole life up. Its only fair she goes through the same. Eye for a eye they say...

#19 Legal Attorney

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 12:33 AM

a weigh up between... they value children being able to come forward and say they have been raped, but in the mean time encouraging children to lie and say they have been raped when they havent

versus

punishing the girl by means of financial compensation now she is an adult and must pay her dad a lot of money to do irreparable good or even incarceration.... if you say you have been raped you better be honest..

HONESTLY.. how hard is fu**n that?

#20 spongeboy

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 12:33 AM

View PostTheApothecary, on 04 April 2012 - 10:43 PM, said:

Pretty sure this is a REALLLLLLLLY old southpark episode...

I remember that episode.. Cartman letting all the kids know that you can get your folks to cave by lying about being molested haha..

And 240 ....Da fuq makes you think that the title is in no way a reference to the hour and a half long lez fest that is double jeopardy?

#21 spongeboy

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 12:48 AM

View PostLegal Attorney, on 05 April 2012 - 12:33 AM, said:

a weigh up between... they value children being able to come forward and say they have been raped, but in the mean time encouraging children to lie and say they have been raped when they havent

versus

punishing the girl by means of financial compensation now she is an adult and must pay her dad a lot of money to do irreparable good or even incarceration.... if you say you have been raped you better be honest..

HONESTLY.. how hard is fu**n that?

Let's not forget this happened in the same country where a moron confronted a 16 year old with skittles, after two employees of the police dispatch center told him not to, shot the kid up and got away with self defense.. Stupid shit like this are a usual there

#22 spongeboy

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 12:56 AM

View Postbuoy, on 05 April 2012 - 12:09 AM, said:

I clicked on the top link, read the article and all I wanted to do was post up one line............. but then I read all this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ holy shit. that story about the ex is completely f**ked up! :o

anyway, here's the quote as to why she isn't prosecuted and it makes sense..... kinda.... in a big picture kind of way:

Quote

She will not face charges because prosecutors fear it may stop others in similar situations from coming forward.


It can also become a boy who cried wolf scenario.. It may seem unlikely but all you need is a smart lawyer who can use this case coupled with clever cross examination to provide enough reasonable doubt for a real sex offender to walk away with a not guilty.. As Peter said earlier rape kits have been in existence for quite some time, and the fact that one wasn't used in this case has allowed an immature mole to abuse the system and give future sex offenders a slight chance to get off scott free and offend again....

Edited by spongeboy, 05 April 2012 - 12:58 AM.


#23 Legal Attorney

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 01:54 AM

View Postspongeboy, on 05 April 2012 - 12:48 AM, said:

View PostLegal Attorney, on 05 April 2012 - 12:33 AM, said:

a weigh up between... they value children being able to come forward and say they have been raped, but in the mean time encouraging children to lie and say they have been raped when they havent

versus

punishing the girl by means of financial compensation now she is an adult and must pay her dad a lot of money to do irreparable good or even incarceration.... if you say you have been raped you better be honest..

HONESTLY.. how hard is fu**n that?

Let's not forget this happened in the same country where a moron confronted a 16 year old with skittles, after two employees of the police dispatch center told him not to, shot the kid up and got away with self defense.. Stupid shit like this are a usual there

so what? if anything that highlights major flaws in their judicial system

past historical events don't give fundamental structure to what or what is not in a governmental system, inclusive of laws, and their respective enforcement.

It is WHO creates the law, the visions of parliament and the government in charge that primarily is the driving force behind any weaknesses and strengths which are ultimately 'pushed out' by the public..

#24 spongeboy

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 04:30 AM

And what did you think I meant with my posts? The American legislative system is top shit? What government holds accountability for this royal f**k up? I can assume that you are at least aware of the fact that the legal structure in each state can vary greatly as far as the US is concerned?

As I clearly stated before it is the US legal system that allow this stupidity to be a commonplace when it shouldn't. What compensation do you think the father is going to pursue after most likely being singled out as a 'pedo' in jail. Her welfare as she is a missionary? What do they make a year? Did you neglect to realize the bitch was 11 when she pressed the charges? Or that no one in the police department bothered to use a rape kit to determine whether this bitch was telling the truth? This is well and truly a case where the state is completely liable for this bungle, not a woman who was a minor when she made the allegations.

You can't hold the judicial system solely accountable for something that jurors convict someone of, and if you bothered to read the article you'll find he plead not guilty, thereby turning this into a court battle rather than a hearing. You think the judges make the final verdict In criminal law? What makes you think the judge can over rule the jury in any criminal case, it is up to the defense to appeal the case.

Notice I intentionally separated the judicial system from the legal system..

Edited by spongeboy, 05 April 2012 - 04:44 AM.


#25 nisskid

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 04:57 AM

double jeopardy her ass, literally.

#26 buoy

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 10:15 AM

View Postspongeboy, on 05 April 2012 - 12:56 AM, said:

View Postbuoy, on 05 April 2012 - 12:09 AM, said:

I clicked on the top link, read the article and all I wanted to do was post up one line............. but then I read all this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ holy shit. that story about the ex is completely f**ked up! Posted Image

anyway, here's the quote as to why she isn't prosecuted and it makes sense..... kinda.... in a big picture kind of way:

Quote

She will not face charges because prosecutors fear it may stop others in similar situations from coming forward.


It can also become a boy who cried wolf scenario.. It may seem unlikely but all you need is a smart lawyer who can use this case coupled with clever cross examination to provide enough reasonable doubt for a real sex offender to walk away with a not guilty.. As Peter said earlier rape kits have been in existence for quite some time, and the fact that one wasn't used in this case has allowed an immature mole to abuse the system and give future sex offenders a slight chance to get off scott free and offend again....
fark i see what you mean - wow, that's just given this whole scenario a whole depth of ramifications :o

#27 Vodkashot

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 10:25 AM

And this is one of the main reasons I don't believe in true equal rights.

#28 Legal Attorney

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 07:41 PM

View Postspongeboy, on 05 April 2012 - 04:30 AM, said:

And what did you think I meant with my posts? The American legislative system is top shit? What government holds accountability for this royal f**k up? I can assume that you are at least aware of the fact that the legal structure in each state can vary greatly as far as the US is concerned?

As I clearly stated before it is the US legal system that allow this stupidity to be a commonplace when it shouldn't. What compensation do you think the father is going to pursue after most likely being singled out as a 'pedo' in jail. Her welfare as she is a missionary? What do they make a year? Did you neglect to realize the bitch was 11 when she pressed the charges? Or that no one in the police department bothered to use a rape kit to determine whether this bitch was telling the truth? This is well and truly a case where the state is completely liable for this bungle, not a woman who was a minor when she made the allegations.

You can't hold the judicial system solely accountable for something that jurors convict someone of, and if you bothered to read the article you'll find he plead not guilty, thereby turning this into a court battle rather than a hearing. You think the judges make the final verdict In criminal law? What makes you think the judge can over rule the jury in any criminal case, it is up to the defense to appeal the case.

Notice I intentionally separated the judicial system from the legal system..

ok sunshine. it is idiots like you who shouldn't offer an opinion. your argument is flawed and inconsistent. here is why:

a) Your argument is the State government/county in this case washington, should be held accountable because the woman was a minor when she told the lie.

IDIOT. If we implement your inept logic, minors will take advantage of not being subject to personal punishment, and think if they manage to fool the system, they will essentially get away with a crime/felon committed.

Think about this as well if that is theoretically possible. Your focus is on the state police who should have implemented a certain procedure to prevent the wrong committed.

That is like saying, "hey i killed this person, and i can get away with it because im a minor and the police were not there".

For this point, your attribution of responsibility on the state police is completely stupid. This is also recognised by the implementation of youth courts that hold minors responsible for their actions.

B) You claim there was a failure to use a rape kit.

How do you know they did not use a rape kit? On the presumption they did not perform one given he got put away? You were not there, you do not know the facts of the case explicitly, stop talking garbage. If you like it so much become a garbage collector.

How do you know the girl did not fake the rape whereby she physically abused herself to the point it became almost immediate to accuse her carer of initial wrongdoing. A rape kit consists of what analysis? It is not perfect. She also has a checkered history and can be discredited immediately due to her drinking issues, threats at school to kill etc.

c) Your claim the State is completely liable

Primarily, if blame were to be attributed to someone else, it should be the jurors and the judge. They all have ample opportunities to deliver verdicts of not guilty or inconclusive etc and failed to do so. Rather, they delivered a veridct convicting him beyond reasonable doubt of a crime he never committed. If you read on i will explain why.

d) Judge not being able to overrule a jury verdict .

This just absolutely proves your inadequate logic on the subject matter.. stick to pushing papers for a living, not writing them.

Walk before you talk and think before you open your mouth. It is hard when your limited though but i'll persevere.

United States Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 29 contains 3 provisions for a judge to override a jury.

a) Before submission to the Jury.

On close of evidence by the prosecution, the defence may move to ask the judge to make a judgement of an acquittal due to evidence deemed insufficient to sustain a convicition.

B) Reserving decision.

The judge representing the court may reserve and decide a motion before the jury returns a verdict or after it returns a verdict of guilty.

c) After jury verdict or discharge.

Time for a motion - defendant may move for a judgement of acquittal within 14 days after a guilty verdict

Ruling on the motion - if the jury has returned a guilty verdict, the court may set aside the verdict and enter an acquittal. If the jury fails to return a verdict, ie inconclusive, the court registers a judgment of an acquittal.

These provisions ensure the right of a criminal defendant is preserved to be innocent until proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt they committed a wrong recognised by law.

Hence, the judge is the ultimate adjudicator of legal disputes, and oversees the legal principles and procedure enforced in a trial of a criminal defendant by his peers.

Therefore, the laws are in place, and lawmakers do not pose a problem

Hence, we look at the bigger picture.

1. If we attribute blame to anyone else but the minor, it is the failure of the judge to make an acquittal based on a lack of sufficient evidence to sustain the accusation or based on the evidence not convicting the father beyond reasonable doubt that he performed the crime.

2. We must blame the minor for going into a court, where she is required BY LAW to tell the truth and nothing but the truth so help her God, and convict another human for something she COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY knew he did not do.

She performed a great act to be able to convince a court presided by adults of a crime that never occured.

How can she payback her father?

All the money she can give him that a court deems suitable to replace the 9 years in jail he should have never done BUT FOR her bullshit.

1. Economic Loss of his earnings for the 9 years.

2. Non-economic loss to reflect intangible damages that should be paid for the pain and suffering, emotional and physical distress and the lack of 'quality of life' the father recievied as a result of those 9 years incarcerated (Hedonic Damages).

3. Punitive/Exemplary damages to deter OTHER STUPID MINORS from engaging in inisidious, deceitful conduct to lock up their parents just because they do not like them or let them play modern warfare 3 for weeks on end.

And if the bitch cannot pay the money, she must work it off through community service, ie the government compensates the father out and she pays back every cent required by the court to the government.

GAME OVER spongebobnoidea. :D

#29 Shark

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 08:24 PM

View PostPeter89, on 04 April 2012 - 08:52 PM, said:

I find it sicken that any person could go to jail without PHYSICAL evidence.

Medical knowledge of raping isn't new, has been around for years. Medical examinations can tell if a person has been raped.
no shit. especially on an 11yo virgin. WTF

#30 spongeboy

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 11:51 PM

View PostLegal Attorney, on 06 April 2012 - 07:41 PM, said:

View Postspongeboy, on 05 April 2012 - 04:30 AM, said:

And what did you think I meant with my posts? The American legislative system is top shit? What government holds accountability for this royal f**k up? I can assume that you are at least aware of the fact that the legal structure in each state can vary greatly as far as the US is concerned?

As I clearly stated before it is the US legal system that allow this stupidity to be a commonplace when it shouldn't. What compensation do you think the father is going to pursue after most likely being singled out as a 'pedo' in jail. Her welfare as she is a missionary? What do they make a year? Did you neglect to realize the bitch was 11 when she pressed the charges? Or that no one in the police department bothered to use a rape kit to determine whether this bitch was telling the truth? This is well and truly a case where the state is completely liable for this bungle, not a woman who was a minor when she made the allegations.

You can't hold the judicial system solely accountable for something that jurors convict someone of, and if you bothered to read the article you'll find he plead not guilty, thereby turning this into a court battle rather than a hearing. You think the judges make the final verdict In criminal law? What makes you think the judge can over rule the jury in any criminal case, it is up to the defense to appeal the case.

Notice I intentionally separated the judicial system from the legal system..

ok sunshine. it is idiots like you who shouldn't offer an opinion. your argument is flawed and inconsistent. here is why:

a) Your argument is the State government/county in this case washington, should be held accountable because the woman was a minor when she told the lie.

IDIOT. If we implement your inept logic, minors will take advantage of not being subject to personal punishment, and think if they manage to fool the system, they will essentially get away with a crime/felon committed.

Think about this as well if that is theoretically possible. Your focus is on the state police who should have implemented a certain procedure to prevent the wrong committed.

That is like saying, "hey i killed this person, and i can get away with it because im a minor and the police were not there".

For this point, your attribution of responsibility on the state police is completely stupid. This is also recognised by the implementation of youth courts that hold minors responsible for their actions.

B) You claim there was a failure to use a rape kit.

How do you know they did not use a rape kit? On the presumption they did not perform one given he got put away? You were not there, you do not know the facts of the case explicitly, stop talking garbage. If you like it so much become a garbage collector.

How do you know the girl did not fake the rape whereby she physically abused herself to the point it became almost immediate to accuse her carer of initial wrongdoing. A rape kit consists of what analysis? It is not perfect. She also has a checkered history and can be discredited immediately due to her drinking issues, threats at school to kill etc.

c) Your claim the State is completely liable

Primarily, if blame were to be attributed to someone else, it should be the jurors and the judge. They all have ample opportunities to deliver verdicts of not guilty or inconclusive etc and failed to do so. Rather, they delivered a veridct convicting him beyond reasonable doubt of a crime he never committed. If you read on i will explain why.

d) Judge not being able to overrule a jury verdict .

This just absolutely proves your inadequate logic on the subject matter.. stick to pushing papers for a living, not writing them.

Walk before you talk and think before you open your mouth. It is hard when your limited though but i'll persevere.

United States Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 29 contains 3 provisions for a judge to override a jury.

a) Before submission to the Jury.

On close of evidence by the prosecution, the defence may move to ask the judge to make a judgement of an acquittal due to evidence deemed insufficient to sustain a convicition.

B) Reserving decision.

The judge representing the court may reserve and decide a motion before the jury returns a verdict or after it returns a verdict of guilty.

c) After jury verdict or discharge.

Time for a motion - defendant may move for a judgement of acquittal within 14 days after a guilty verdict

Ruling on the motion - if the jury has returned a guilty verdict, the court may set aside the verdict and enter an acquittal. If the jury fails to return a verdict, ie inconclusive, the court registers a judgment of an acquittal.

These provisions ensure the right of a criminal defendant is preserved to be innocent until proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt they committed a wrong recognised by law.

Hence, the judge is the ultimate adjudicator of legal disputes, and oversees the legal principles and procedure enforced in a trial of a criminal defendant by his peers.

Therefore, the laws are in place, and lawmakers do not pose a problem

Hence, we look at the bigger picture.

1. If we attribute blame to anyone else but the minor, it is the failure of the judge to make an acquittal based on a lack of sufficient evidence to sustain the accusation or based on the evidence not convicting the father beyond reasonable doubt that he performed the crime.

2. We must blame the minor for going into a court, where she is required BY LAW to tell the truth and nothing but the truth so help her God, and convict another human for something she COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY knew he did not do.

She performed a great act to be able to convince a court presided by adults of a crime that never occured.

How can she payback her father?

All the money she can give him that a court deems suitable to replace the 9 years in jail he should have never done BUT FOR her bullshit.

1. Economic Loss of his earnings for the 9 years.

2. Non-economic loss to reflect intangible damages that should be paid for the pain and suffering, emotional and physical distress and the lack of 'quality of life' the father recievied as a result of those 9 years incarcerated (Hedonic Damages).

3. Punitive/Exemplary damages to deter OTHER STUPID MINORS from engaging in inisidious, deceitful conduct to lock up their parents just because they do not like them or let them play modern warfare 3 for weeks on end.

And if the bitch cannot pay the money, she must work it off through community service, ie the government compensates the father out and she pays back every cent required by the court to the government.

GAME OVER spongebobnoidea. :D


You just rambled on, put up a plethora of points which in turn mean shit all.. As I clearly stated the woman is completely at fault here, however due to the fact she was a minor when the incident occurred she can not face any punitive measures as an adult. As for damages I'll use an insurance claim as an example. Say someone writes your car off whilst drunk, their insurance won't cover your damages because the driver at fault had broken the law which in turn led to a breach in contract. Now yes you will be compensated but the manner and timeline in which they reimburse is entirely up to them, wanna know how I know that? Because a drunk *milkshake* wrote my car off and sends me 4 measly bucks a week until he has reimbursed me, hardly a form of compensation if you ask me . A MISSIONARY ON WELFARE is highly unlikely to compensate you the tangible damages within your lifetime, there has never been a case where the government foots the bill for someone, unless they are culpable or have breach their duty of care. The punishment of community service is normally reserved for an individual who is held liable for PUBLIC damages e.g. Vandalism normally get tasked with cleaning or repairing the damage cause by the act.

If you read my statement I only put forward the notion that the police department would more likely be at fault than an 11 year old girl.. She acted irrationally, but in turn she is an 11 year old girl.. Name one female under 21 who isn't utterly irrational, the police may well have acted irresponsibly. Sure the judge could have overruled the jury or lobbied for a change in jury. But essentially seeing as there is such a thing as a rape kit and various examinations of the hymen that could have been performed by request of the police They are the first point of failure and therefore can be held responsible for their negligence

The best indicator to me as to why YOU have no idea is the fact everyone on this damn thread believes this situation is royally f**ked for the dad and you feel the need to try and argue a point everyone agrees with....

4 thumbs up chief, you managed to preach to the *I love my mum*ing choir and look like a utter knob at the same time....

Also there is a big difference between murder and Lying under oath champ, and I'm sure police would exhaust all information to duly find the responsible person be it a minor or adult...

Edited by spongeboy, 07 April 2012 - 12:11 AM.






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